Global Change Teachings for the New Millennium

Presented to members and guests of Global Community Communications Church at a World-Wide Sunday Service 

(Also available in the book, Global Change Teachings for the New Millennium, Series One)

You claim to have the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star. What is it and how did you get it?

Gabriel: I think Santeen should answer that because he represents the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star as our Liaison Minister.

Santeen: How do you answer that question? What is the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star? We have a pope who supposedly has the mandate handed down from St. Peter himself and through each pope, through a time when there were six popes before they got together in order for one of them to have jurisdiction and carry it on papacy after papacy.

You have millions of Buddhists who believe that the Dalai Lama is the 14th reincarnation of the Dalai Lama of Tibet. Think about that. You have people bowing down to the Dalai Lama. They don’t even know who he is. Everybody just bows when he goes by. What is that?

What is a mandate? We all have different kinds of mandates. We have mandates from the government and mandates from the underworld. But when you talk about the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star, that is a big one. There are people who don’t know that we live in the universe of Nebadon. They don’t realize who Jesus is, that He is much more than the Jesus of our traditions. He is Christ Michael, sovereign ruler of a universe. His firstborn son is the Bright and Morning Star, who has a mandate from Christ Michael. That is big. So I will try to narrow it down, in a short period of time, to someone like our interviewers here. What is the Mandate? It really is the key to understanding what is happening here.

I am going to share a little insight that probably none of you know. When the midwayers were asked to bring through the Urantia revelation, when the celestial spirits first began asking for it, it was about the time of the Reformation. That is when they got approval from Uversa through Christ Michael, to bring through the Urantia revelation to this planet. They wanted to set it up at the time of the Reformation, with Martin Luther and the printing press. They couldn’t get it together. It took them all of that time to be able to gather a contact core of people, and that didn’t happen until they got the Sadler group together in the early 1900s, but think about it. They wanted it to come through at the time of Luther, the Reformation, and the printing press.

This mandate to bring continuing revelation, for God to continue to pour out His love and His mercy and His ministry to His children here, goes all the way back to Dalamatia and the First Epochal Revelation. Again, how do you describe that to people who don’t have the language and don’t have that understanding? How do you go all the way back to Van?

We know that the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star, in regard to this soul we know as Gabriel of Urantia, probably began around the Renaissance of the Morning Star with Francis of Assisi. But to understand the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star, you have to understand the souls who have it, who and what they are, who and what they were. Gabriel, in the Bright and Morning Star Mandate video, speaks a line that is really good for all of us. How do you know who you are and where you are going if you don’t know where you have been and who you were? One of the marvelous gifts that we have are the transmissions, the contact with celestial spirits, with the Chief of Finaliters, Paladin, to be able to tell us who we are and who we are to become. That is made possible by the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star. So we not only have the history of the Mandate to consider, but also the history of the souls to whom the mandate has been given. Think about what they had to go through in order to get to this point, to be able to get the Mandate, and then what the Mandate means to every soul here and on the planet. I don’t think you can answer that question in less than an afternoon. The best that you can do is begin to highlight it and know that it is a continuing blessing that comes from the Universe Creator Son, the Paradise Son Himself, down through His sons and sons’ sons and daughters until it gets to this point on the fringes of time and space on Urantia held by Gabriel of Urantia and Niánn Emerson Chase.

Look at the origin of where it has come from and how it got through all of the history that we know about (what little that we know about) to this moment in time and space and to have the mantle be on this pair’s shoulders, that they have to walk into and live up to, day by day, moment by moment, decision by decision, thought by thought. You read in Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation that one thought on their part could turn the whole ministry left, right, slow it down, or speed it up. You have the same kind of relationship to responsibility and obligation, but not like these two do. Do you want to be in their shoes? Sometimes, yes, when you get to make those decisions to do what you want. But when you consider the responsibility that they have before God, think about it. What the world really needs to know, is that that Mandate is a mandate that comes from God to bring about a restoration of God’s divine plan, to restore the planet to its circuits, to restore the souls to their family, to restore reality on Urantia. What little truth do we know we have? Some of the highest of it has come through these two people.

We have the Audio Fusion Material Complement. We have restored the Salvington circuit to Urantia. Look at what has happened in and through the Mandate over the history of the renaissances, the cosmic renaissances, and the evolution of religious thought. Not everything, but very much that is significant in terms of humans bringing the planet to the point of where it is—on the most amazing, enthralling brink of spiritual renaissance—has come through the leadership of this pair. Whether you accept that or not is between you and God, but I believe it to be a fact, amazing as it might seem. We are talking about epochal revelation, living revelation, not man talking to God, but God talking to man and man listening.

We have the Old Testament, and there are people who can’t accept the New Testament. You have Fifth Epochal Revelation. People can’t accept that. Now you have Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation because the living spiritual forces who have always been on the planet have been trying to keep the light of truth from being extinguished. You can go back through and look in The URANTIA Book at how many people the celestial spirits have tried to work with to keep truth alive on the planet, because man by his own nature on a fallen planet stuck in rebellion will extinguish that truth.

One of the most thrilling comments comes from the Master in the ordination speech to the seventy, when Jesus talks about how the world sits in darkness. It still sits in darkness today. The light of truth has almost been extinguished on Urantia several times, to the point that the United Brotherhood of Midwayers are the recognized cultural, spiritual citizens of the planet. In all fairness to us, folks, we have some pretty big egos; we are not it. Remember, we are the lowest level of creature in all of the universes of time and space that God has blessed with the gift of personality, just above animal, and most people on the planet are not tapping into those circuits. It is the midwayers who have held it together. And this pair brought through some of those midwayers who are holding it together. There is a little bit of an affinity. Again, the story is a marvelous one, in and of itself.

So what is the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star? It is the lifeline to Christ Michael. It connects the loop. Have you ever taken two wires, put them together, and you have a circuit that makes something move? They are the two wires. Here is the circuit. What do you think it is you are tuning in to? Do you think you can do that all by yourself? Show me. Call me collect from anywhere in the world. I have been trying to do it for lifetime after lifetime after lifetime after lifetime. That is called pride, arrogance. “I can do it.” No thanks. “Yes, I can do it.” Well, we can’t do it. We never could do it. We never will do it. Keep studying your homework, and you will look at what the Trinity experience is all about.

Here we have the ambassadors; here we have the representatives, and what are we going to do? Are the interviewers going to grill them on buzzwords? UFO theology? Does that have anything to do with us? The closest they might get to that is maybe church and state. No one has a clue to what the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star is, including us. Gabriel of Urantia and Niánn Emerson Chase are walking into it. They are evolving in it, day by day in their ascension, just like us. They need us just as much as we need them.

This is the marvelous ministry of the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star, who comes to teach us once a month in a community transmission, touches our hearts and our minds and our souls, and we are not like we ever were before. How does it get here? It is not fusing with me. I get the best of the by-product, but we all helped to be in a higher reality. We have a tremendous responsibility to the Mandate. Again, what is the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star? It is Christ Michael reaching out and touching you, full circuit, inside, outside, connecting, but if you are not connected at your level, you can’t connect at their level. It can’t work. You have all been in that place to know what it is like to be touched by the Mandate. The Mandate is bigger than Gabriel and Niánn. It is really huge. There is always something bigger. Gabriel and Niánn have their elders. They have to humble themselves before their walk with God, and it is that humility, recognition, and honor that gave them the Mandate. They have it, and they have to keep it, and they keep it by continuing to serve us, their God, and this planet at the most humble and unselfish level I have ever personally seen. I tell Gabriel and Niánn all the time, “You know why I love you and serve you? Because you deserve it. You earn it. You walk the walk. You talk the talk. I am around you the most, but it doesn’t stop here.” They don’t get up and leave, and it is something else when they leave. What you see is what you get. This is it. If you don’t get it and you don’t see it, you do not have a clue to what the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star is. We should all be laying on our bellies like reptiles. I said when I first got here that the first Divine New Order product should be knee pads.

So my biggest sin here is my familiarity with my cosmic parents, with my elders, with my lack of respect and honor, and for whatever all that is that I take for granted. This planet doesn’t have a clue yet. They will, and where is that going to leave you? NBC is coming here. How are you going to treat these people and this ministry, off the shoulder, off the cuff? It is serious business. It is life and death. Souls are being extinguished every day because they don’t know that the Mandate exists. There are people getting up every day and praying to find the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star. What is the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star? What does it mean to you? It is different for everybody here. But it is the truth. It is the highest truth on Urantia as lived through Gabriel and Niánn, and they try and share it with us. It is so big, and so much. That is why I said in the beginning, I don’t feel competent to answer that question but I am trying. The Mandate has touched my life and changed it. I am not the same person as a result. But I guarantee you we don’t respect it enough; we don’t honor it enough, and we don’t respect and honor enough the people who carry it.

The Mandate is our hope. It is our future. It is the bridge. Michael is on the other side, saying, “Come home. Come home. I am the way. I am the life. I am the bridge from this world to the next.” You know what the bridge is? The bridge is the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star. It is the bridge to the twenty-first century. So think about that. You should have the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star tattooed on the inside of your head, really, and you should be looking at it every day trying to answer the same question I am struggling to answer.
What do you think the crop circles seen in England and other parts of the world are?

Santeen: I love it. Any time truth comes to the planet, the first thing the planet wants to do, those people in control, is to put a spin on it. Now what we are hearing is that the crop circles are all fabricated. The reality of it is, the crop circles are the beginning message of our unseen friends, our brothers and sisters, pointing to the reality of the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star. They are communications, clear and simple, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, and you see the groups that begin to decipher it, right down to the trumpet of Gabriel blasting, if you’ve seen that one. Stated simply, the crop circles are the beginning communication to the world of what the Mandate of the Bright and Morning Star is.
What do you feel spiritual and political leaders must do to seriously begin to solve the many problems of this planet?

Gabriel: Thank you. I appreciate that question because it is a very important question to answer. Spiritual and political leaders, and all the people of the planet, must have a concern to raise the global consciousness. The consciousness of this planet needs to be raised. One of the major problems we have right now is that we have a global economy where the pursuit of money is foremost in an individual’s life. The high cost of living and acquiring the essential needs in life, as well as the tools for a career, forces most people to make choices based upon economics, not on God’s will. These important life decisions include where one attends elementary school or college, where one may live as an adult, one’s career, and one’s choice for a marriage partner. Unfortunately, many people marry because the ascending son, the man, is making good money. He is a money maker. That is a terrible, terrible way to raise your children. All of these choices are very important.

God has one will, and society, the way it is set up and structured, has its will. We say that the will of the system is the will of the dark forces behind the system, Caligastia, the fallen Planetary Prince, and company, whom many of the world and many religious groups call Satan. Satan was actually a very high being from another world, who at one time was an Assistant System Sovereign, who rebelled and has a lot of ugly evil, sinful, and iniquitous power.

So the profit-making motive on which much of our world is based right now is one of the major problems why we cannot seek and be in God’s perfect will because everything goes against that choice. Even in Newsweek in December 1997 there was an article that talked about “celestial capitalists.” They are already thinking of ways in which to evangelize other planets for capitalism. The Vatican is already thinking about ways to evangelize other planets for Catholicism. The Pope is putting together a team to look into this, to send the first Catholic priest to another planet to evangelize the inhabitants. Now isn’t that something?

We do have little voices crying out in the wilderness, little voices like Jerry Brown. He has a global consciousness, and he gets attacked left and right by people in his own city who say that he shouldn’t have a global consciousness, that he should keep his concerns local. Well, you can do that in some cases and you should, but you cannot do that in every situation. You have to have a global consciousness, because one thing affects something else. Yes, he is concerned about global climate and the ozone layer. We are concerned about it too, and it is not just garbage service in your local city; it is the greenhouse gases of the planet.

What do you think is the single most important problem that separates individuals, races, or nations on this planet?

Niánn: I am going to go ahead and answer that one. It is fundamentalistic thinking. It is people not thinking, as Gabriel said, in a global way, but being local, being wrapped up in themselves first and foremost, or their family, or their little neighborhood, or their little town, or their little state, or their country, and not thinking beyond that. That is fundamentalistic thinking, not allowing yourself to move and expand in other ways. That is what keeps people and races and nations apart. It is also selfishness. It is wanting to look out for your own interests, or your country’s interests, or your church’s interests, or your organization’s interests, or your business’s interest and nothing else, and not taking into consideration that the decisions you make can have an impact on other people.

I feel that in order for people to make this change, first and foremost every individual has to encounter who they really are. They are a child of God. They have to come into that, and when they begin to realize that, they begin to realize that every individual on this planet is a child of God, no matter what race, religion, nationality, neighborhood, whatever. That is just beginning to change your consciousness, just there, beginning to allow yourself to climb out of those crystallized ways of seeing reality, yourself, some other person, some other country, some other race or nationality. It is beginning to do that, then allowing yourself to expand and move into seeing that other individual, and putting yourself in the shoes of that other individual. When you can begin to get in the skin of someone else, then you can begin to understand what motivates them, why they make the choices they make, and you can begin to feel united with them. You still see and realize your differences, but you also then begin to realize what you have in common.

There is a beautiful, beautiful analogy that is taught in The URANTIA Book, and it is a lesson on how we need to expand how we look at each other, versus when we are narrow and fundamentalistic in the way we look at someone. Let’s say that you are just looking straight ahead. You don’t have any peripheral vision. You look, and what you see in front of you is a snarling savage with his club upraised. If that is all you see then you are immediately going to be on the defensive. You are going to be fearful. You see a savage. What is he going to do? Is he going to come after you? He deserves to be wiped out, or whatever. But if you are able to begin to put yourself into that person’s shoes, why is this person snarling? What is motivating this person? Your vision begins to expand, and all of a sudden, as you expand, you see that in front of that snarling savage is a saber-tooth tiger ready to attack him, and behind him is his family, his children, and his wife. All of a sudden, because of that expanded vision, your whole opinion of that individual changes. All of a sudden, he is a father protecting his family. You want to step in and help him.

That is how we need to change our visions when we look at individuals or groups, races, nations, cultures, whatever, that are different from us. We need to begin to put ourselves in their place and expand in our understanding; then that separation will begin to disappear.

To continue on that line, your teachings indicate the way that people think affects social conditions. Can you explain that?

Gabriel: One thing absolutely affects another. There have been television commercials that show a seed falling from a South American tree, and how the vibrations can even affect something else in another country like here in America. Yes, there is an effect carried by our thoughts, and so many major problems come out of wrong choices, because energy follows thought. We are thought. We are more than just this body. We are a soul, and so many social conditions, many tragedies, change how people respond to each other.

An example is the closing down of the steel mills here in the United States: Jones and Laughlin, Bethlehem Steel, United States Steel. Those men who worked there are men who served in the First and Second World Wars, fought for their countries, and some lost limbs. My grandfather lost his leg in a steel mill. My father worked and retired, only receiving part of his benefits and losing most of his security and medical benefits, because these mills shut down and didn’t pay the benefits to the workers who worked all their lives hoping to get the Great American Dream, which they rightly deserved. What kind of system allows this to happen? What kind of system allows thousands upon thousands of workers who served their country and raised their families with righteousness, who taught their children the difference between right and wrong, to lose what they have earned? The very system that they fought for, counted on, and believed in, turned its back on them in their old age. What kind of system does that? Yes, social behavior does affect the way we think, and people become sick, tired, and die in disease and misery basically because the system gives them no hope.
What is Continuing Epochal Revelation, and why is it so important?

Niánn: That is a big and very important question. First of all, I would like to explain the difference between evolutionary religion and revelation. Again, there is no way that we can separate any facet or aspect of our existence from the First Source and Center of All, the Universal Father. Many call Him God, and most evolutionary thought, whether it is connected with God, or whether it is connected with our world (people’s behavior, explaining political procedures, whatever it is) comes from people’s own experiences and their struggles to explain the reality that they encounter. Evolutionary religion would be individuals trying to explain God from their perspective, their frame of reference. For example, why is there lightning in the sky? What is that? Well, that has evolved in understanding over hundreds of years, and almost everything that is understood evolved, and is in the process of evolving, basically from people’s frame of reference. And as a people evolve, their frame of reference evolves.

Today, the human race on this planet has evolved tremendously in many areas. We have evolved in scientific knowledge, and to a certain extent, culturally. We have evolved in the arts, and to a certain extent in music. We have evolved in politics and government, but we haven’t evolved that much in religion. And when we separate our spiritual understanding from the secular explanations, terrible things happen, because we do not know who we are. We do not have our connection as an ascending son or daughter of the Universal Father, the First Source and Center, so our frame of reference is very limited.

What God has been doing for the last five hundred thousand years on this world is presenting epochal revelations to us, and there have been five major ones. Whether it is an epochal revelation, which would be to the entire planet, or an individual revelation to an individual person, God, in some way, to some degree, is reaching down to speak to the individuals here and reveal what reality is, what truth is, from the celestial spirit frame of reference, which is much bigger and much broader than our human one.

As I had mentioned, there have been five epochal revelations on the planet. They are major and for the entire planet. Plus there have been many, many minor ones. Of course individual people experience revelation in their own personal religious and spiritual growth, but revelation continues to expand as the people evolve, so it is a continuation. It never ends. Many people believe that the sacred scripture that they have within their particular religion is a revelation. They believe that is it, that it stops there. Yet as they evolve as a people and as a group and as a religion, they are going to outgrow that sacred scripture. So revelation needs to keep coming continually.

I am not going to get into all the details of how God can present Himself and reach through to us. But continued revelation is basically God revealing different aspects of His nature and the nature of life and reality to us. It needs to continue to come to us and continue to expand. That is very important, because if people do not move in their frame of reference from superstitions or from wrong ideas, those decisions they make will continue to be coming from their lower frame of reference.

I had pointed out earlier that we have evolved as a group of people tremendously in certain areas. But we look on our planet, and we still have the same problems that primitive people had. There are still people on this planet who starve to death. There are people on this planet who are being killed, throats slit, murdered. There are still hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of innocent people being killed, just like there were five hundred thousand years ago. Where is the evolution there? If we had truly evolved as a people, there would be no one starving; there would be none of this barbaric, warlike behavior going on. What is more frightening is that we have evolved scientifically, so we are able to do many things; we have evolved tremendously in the industrial realm, yet we have not evolved spiritually. Therefore, when individuals don’t evolve spiritually, they don’t develop a sense of ethics, that sense of responsibility to others, because they do not have that connection, that evolving, ascending connection with God, realizing they are a child of God. So they haven’t moved out of that fundamentalism that I talked about earlier.

As Gabriel had pointed out, almost every decision is made based on “How am I going to profit from it?” Individuals make those decisions. Individuals are making decisions for their own choices in their careers; individuals are making the choices as a head of a corporation based on the profit motive, and thus environmentally our planet is in devastation. Pure drinking water and pure, clean air are commodities that are not available for the majority of people on this planet. We can go on and on about all of the tragedies that are also happening just at the environmental level. That is because throughout these hundreds of years, those people throughout the world who have made decisions on how to utilize our natural resources did not have revelation within their frame of reference. With revelation and continued revelation, selfishness and that small fundamentalistic thinking leaves. The profit motive leaves. When you have revelation within your frame of reference, you have to take into consideration how your decision will impact not only the people of this world today, but ten years from now, twenty-five years from now, a hundred years from now, and how it will impact the natural resources of the world that we live on.

Gabriel: I would like to add to that question about why Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation is so important. First of all, the dominant culture has always oppressed continued revelation, what we call expanded truth. Many thought the Wright Brothers were crazy because they wanted to fly. People thought that the builders of the first automobiles were crazy. Why would people want to use a machine to drive around if they could use a good horse? Galileo was persecuted by the Catholic Church, and on and on.

There are some real facts, cosmic facts, realities that are unknown to the masses and to some of the teachers holding influential political and religious positions who can and should be teaching these cosmic truths, so that people—souls, because we are not just bodies—souls can know who they are. For instance, there are more than 170 million souls on this planet who are from other universes, meaning the first time their souls came into existence it was on another planet in another universe. They have had to come back to this planet over and over again until they get it right and go back to their point of origin reconstruction from which they fell because they accepted lower truth in a rebellion that happened here on Urantia (Earth) two hundred thousand years ago. The majority of people on this planet are new souls, billions and billions of new souls, just growing into becoming an evolving and ascending soul, but the 170 million over age 18 and (in potential) 200 million under 18 have been here before on this planet, they have been on other planets before, and they are older souls. We are not talking about reincarnation. We don’t believe in reincarnation. We do believe in repersonalization, and it is important for these souls to find out who they are, where they come from, and why. Because if they don’t, they will continue on their dead-end courses of drugs and getting into lower cultures in which they defile their bodies and their minds. These millions of souls have no place to go. They have no culture. They have no one telling them what their destinies are. They are not meant to be what new souls are meant to be.

Many new souls are meant to thrive in areas where they are working with their hands, in sacred labor. Labor is indeed sacred. Today on this planet, men and women who work with their hands are considered below standard, beneath the norm, and so on. If it were not for the skilled laborers, who I like to call the sacred laborers, we wouldn’t have buildings, we wouldn’t have places to live, we wouldn’t have roofs over our heads, and we wouldn’t have educational facilities, universities, and bridges to cross.

People have to be satisfied knowing God’s will for them. For certain others, starseed who have interdimensional and extraterrestrial visions of designing the bridges and designing the buildings, they have to draw these plans, so everything works in harmony with each other. You have to know your place. You have to know what you can do and what you can’t do—your limitations—so that there is no argument, there is no competition, and there is no jealousy or envy. You just know who you are, and what God’s will for you is. There is always room to grow, but then you can become disillusioned about what you can do and what you can’t do. It is up to the elders to gently guide souls into their destiny. There are no elders like this. The closest thing to it is in the Native American realities, and the native and indigenous people all over the earth, but they too are beginning to become extinct because our dominant culture will not allow them even to guide their own people.

Yes, continued revelation is very much needed. Some of these starseed are on the Sally Jesse Raphael show, the young teenagers in twelve to fourteen-year-old bodies. She has them on often. Then she brings out psychologists who don’t know what they are talking about, trying to give answers, and the souls that these psychologists are talking to are hundreds of years older than they. But the psychologists have degrees; they have the respect of Sally, and these little frustrated thousand-year-old souls in little bodies, don’t know what to do but explode on television. That is what they do, and the whole show is set up to sensationalize them and make the poor kids blow up. Yes, they are only thirteen and fourteen and dating men forty-five years old, because they don’t have any young starseed friends their own age to even talk to, and when they do, they have to run away from home to be in fellowship and friendship with them. Yes, they need to know who they are.

Throughout the history of this planet, starseed have been called the Bohemians and the Beatniks and the Hippies and now the X Generation, but they are real. They are real, and they are different because they see a lot of the wrongs in society, and they feel so frustrated because there is nothing they can do about it. There is no book that they can go to. Well, now there is a book that they can go to. There are two books right now, and we hope to publish more. The first one is The URANTIA Book, the beginning of the Fifth Epochal Revelation, and the second one is The Cosmic Family, Volume I. We will soon have The Cosmic Family, Volume II out. The Cosmic Family, Volumes I and II are Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation, and these books are meant for those millions of souls who have had other lives. Some have been influential in the history of this planet, making this planet a better place—the inventors, the scientists, the architects. You need to find out who you are. We would like to help you do that.

Could you tell us some of the key teachings then of Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation?

Niánn: We do have people who have a point of origin from another universe and are thousands of years older than other people. People need to begin to find out who they are, their point of origin, some of those talents, skills, and abilities that they had developed, and what their experiences were in previous repersonalizations and existences—experiences that are now hidden and need to be brought out into the open. That is a part of what Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation is about.

A key teaching is that every human being on this planet is a child of God. There is a fragment of the Father within each one of us. In fact, there is the threefold Spirit of God within us. There is the Spirit of the Father. There is the Spirit of Truth that comes from the Son. There is the Holy Spirit that comes from the Mother aspect of God, and all of these are within us if we will tap into them. The celestial spirit personalities who work with us, who live outside of us, as well as the Threefold Spirit of Deity within us, none of these living spiritual forces can do anything with us if we do not cooperate. They cannot go against our free will. That is cosmic law. But if we do open up to them, then we can begin to evolve and ascend and expand and bring in this revelation. That is one of our most important teachings.

Another teaching is that humans have a much larger range than just this world here, and we are much bigger than even the most advanced and progressive astronomers realize. There are billions of evolutionary inhabited worlds very similar to this world, as well as very different, that are inhabited by evolutionary mortals, which we are. Some of those worlds are much more primitive than ours, and some are farther advanced, not only technically but spiritually, than we are. Some are already in the stages of light and life.

Another key teaching is that it is our individual destiny and this world’s destiny, to move into the first stage of light and life, and much sooner than we realize, for we are destined to make a quantum leap and move into that, not in thousands and thousands of years, but within the next fifty or sixty years. Many people already here at the First Planetary Sacred Home, because they have moved and are continuing to move into this revelation, are taking care of their own personal growth. They are choosing to move out of patterns that are in error, that are out of divine pattern, moving closer and closer to God, wanting to walk more and more in God’s perfect will for them, and wanting their decisions to reflect that, moving into perfection themselves at the level a human being can achieve while on this planet. There are many, many levels of perfection. You have to move out of fundamentalism.

Another key point is that we need to expand our awareness of who Jesus is. Christianity has the correct idea, that Jesus is the Christ, is the Divine Son, Paradise Son of God, and the only Paradise Son of God who has walked this planet. We need to expand in our understanding and see Jesus in a cosmic perspective, and that is why we have to move into continued revelation as to who Jesus is. Again, in the wonderful gift of the Fifth Epochal Revelation to our world, the last section of The URANTIA Book does give us that expanded idea of who Jesus is.

We need to realize in a higher way, with a higher intelligence, why our planet is in the mess it is in, why it has gone off the path of normal evolution, why we have so many problems today. We need to understand in an expanded way who Lucifer is. Various religions, especially Christianity and those of the New Age, have an understanding that there was a fallen celestial spirit being named Lucifer. We need to understand exactly who Lucifer is. We need to understand about the Lucifer rebellion and the impact that it had, not only on our planet which we will discover when we read The URANTIA Book, but the impact it had on other worlds in other universes which you learn more about in The Cosmic Family volumes.

Gabriel: This comes under the topic with which The Cosmic Family, Volume I begins; it is called the physics of rebellion. David Bohm said that there needs to be a common pool of understanding. There needs to be dialogue between religious leaders and political leaders—intelligent dialogue. Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation is that intelligent dialogue. He said the Earth is void of that intelligent dialogue. We have it, and we need to teach it. We are teaching it, and it needs to be taught by thousands of others. This is what the beginning of the First Planetary Sacred Home is about here in Sedona, Arizona, USA. It is about teaching destiny reservists this expanded dialogue for the rest of the world, so that we can communicate with each other, and so that we don’t have to get in an argument over a particular subject after talking to each other for two minutes. We can expand upon fundamental truths.

Yes, there are absolutes. We need absolutes, but we also have to understand the vast, magnificent master universe of relativity within the absolutes. We cannot be so relative that we have no foundations; we cannot be so fundamentalistic that we have no bending. You have to find a balance, and too many on this planet do not have that balance.
Why do you think people are seeking alternative lifestyles these days?

Niánn: I’ll start out with that. A buzzword that is floating around in our country right now in the media is “sustainable,” as in a sustainable culture, and a lot of people are finding that the dominant culture is not honestly sustainable. It is not sustainable for them as individuals or for their families, so they are looking for something that is going to be more sustaining for them. Many people feel like they aren’t really living, and we know that life is constant movement, constant change. Any biologist will tell you that if an organism stops moving forward, stops evolving, it will stop living. We know, as human beings, that we feel dead inside; we become bored if we don’t have things happening in our lives, if there isn’t some type of change and diversity. That change should be evolution. It should be progress. It should be ascension. It should be moving forward. The dominant culture in Western civilization is not sustainable in that area. It doesn’t encourage true evolution and ascension on an emotional level, on an intellectual level, and definitely not on a spiritual level.

So people are seeking another type of culture, another type of group or living situation that will begin to encourage that part in them. Many people feel emotionally void, lonely, and isolated, because their relationships are very superficial. They put a mask on to go to work. They put another mask on to go shopping. They put another mask on when they are at home. They want to be whole and real and genuine, and yet they feel like they are not in a culture that will sustain that, will encourage that, where they can just be real people and not have to put on these roles and acts. They want to be in a culture that supports them in not only their weaknesses but in overcoming their weaknesses and beginning to move into becoming better people. That is what they are looking for, and that is why they are seeking these alternative lifestyles.

They want a lifestyle that is not based on just economics, not based on judging others by “what I can get out of that person, and when I am done using that person, I’ll move on,” or judging people by what they are worth financially. They want to move out of all of that and move into a new culture, a different kind of culture, and that is why they are seeking alternative ways.

Gabriel: In a recent U.S. News & World Report, a survey found that 66% of Americans, including a third of those who say they never attend church, say they believe that Jesus Christ will return to Earth someday, and that is an increase from the 61% who expressed belief in the second coming three years ago.

Many of the dreams that people have are not coming true today, in this country and in Western civilization. People are seeking alternative lifestyles to hopefully find a place where they can once again have the concept of family and neighborhood. Where I grew up I was able to walk within several blocks and see my great-grandfather, my grandfather, my grandmother, my great-grandmother, my cousins, my uncles and aunts. I went from house to house and ate and was loved. “Hey, how ya doing? How you feel today?” Today, you can grow up, live and die next to your neighbor, and they don’t even know your last name. We are trying to change that. We are trying to make that a different reality for our cosmic family, and that is the way it should be. That is what the concept of cosmic families is on higher worlds of light and life. Celestial spirits, higher beings, spiritual evolution and evolvement make cultures intrauniversal and interuniversal.

Side by side we have lived with each other, those souls we have been with before in other lives, and those new souls we come to know as biological mommy and daddy, to whom we may be teacher sons or daughters. We never have to separate. It isn’t God’s will for us to be separated from our loved ones, our grandmothers and grandfathers and sisters and brothers and past husbands and wives and past complements. It is not God’s will for us to be separated. On the contrary, it is God’s will for us to be together forever. That is what the union of souls is all about. Planets of higher evolution are constructed in this manner by their political and spiritual leaders who walk side-by-side, hand-in-hand within the perfect will of God and the divine mind to keep people together, not to separate them. It was Lucifer, the fallen Primary Lanonandek Son, who caused the separation, and Caligastia, the fallen Secondary Lanonandek Son on this planet, who continues to cause it on this world. There are so many different ways to God. There are so many different so-called truths. There are so many different “healers,” so many ways in which people can be confused.

Somehow, some way, people have to get through all of that and come into a higher reality. People who seek alternative lifestyles are looking for that truth because their reality isn’t working. It hasn’t worked for them yet, and it is not working now. Their traditional institutional religions aren’t working, if they are honest about it. Many people stay together in marriages, and they are miserable year after year because their tradition says they are supposed to stay together. That is not a good reason to stay together. The children are not just a good reason to stay together. Why should people stay together? You should if you are growing together in God, if you are evolving. If you are from another interuniversal reality where you have known a different family life, how can you be narrowed into a little box that says, “Now this is your reality. Now this is what you have to function in.” It is impossible. It is impossible for any soul who has been born and raised in higher reality to be confined to the narrow box of reality as it is known anywhere on this planet, in any culture.

Yes, people are seeking alternative lifestyles. I was amazed a few weeks ago when I saw a young Chinese boy being interviewed by an American reporter, “What is the one thing you would like to have?” He answered, “Oh, a pair of American Reebok tennis shoes.” I thought, gee, that is the Great American Dream, in a sense, in China now. What our children should be saying, when a child is asked, “What is the one thing that you really want?” is “I want my family to be with me forever. I always want to be around my family. I want to be happy.” That is the only thing that eternity is about. It is not about riches. It is not about money. It is not about power. It is not about any of that. It is about being together forever, using our talents for the glory of God, not for the glory of the corporation, not for the glory of the country, but for the total, overall glory of God and the families of God. That is what we are about, on this planet, on any other planet, and all of the planets of time and space. Why are people seeking alternative lifestyles? They have no choice but to seek, because they don’t have it where they are.

Do you think that the United States of America has a responsibility for the rest of the world?

Gabriel: Absolutely, we have a responsibility. In some areas our responsibility is localized, and in other areas there is a major responsibility. For instance, in Algeria and Yugoslavia, where thousands upon thousands of people are being slaughtered, we should stop it. There are the good guys, and there are the bad guys. You can make it really complicated, but that is what it always boils down to in any country, in any religion, in any workplace, in any home, in any family; there are the good guys and the bad guys. It is pretty simple.

Unfortunately for this country, on this fallen world you have to have a strong hand. God has blessed this country and called it the melting pot, where people come from all religions and all nations and live together. Our Founding Fathers had a vision, and it worked for a long, long time, but it is long forgotten now. It has been forgotten through materialism and through greed. Yes, we have a responsibility. We have a responsibility to stop atrocities all over the world when we can and where we can, not just when our money interests are involved, not just because we are losing oil, but when people are suffering. That is when we have a responsibility.

Yes, we have to work from the inside here in America. We have to take care of our own poor; we have to take care of our own needy. We have to educate our own people. Yes, but that “own” has to expand to the whole world, because that little child in South Africa and Algeria and Biafra and Bangladesh is my child too. And until we begin to think that way, this planet will never change. We are a global family, and up and above that, we are an interuniversal family. And here we can’t even think beyond our own nation. The big picture isn’t just our nation.

Yes, we have to be global. We have to expand our consciousness. We have to think of someone else’s grandmother as our grandmother and someone else’s grandfather as ours. We have to go after the bad guys. Who are the bad guys? Those are the guys that would kill my grandmother and my grandfather and make our children starve. Absolutely, we have a global responsibility.
What do you have to say about women’s rights today?

Niánn: I think the one person on this planet who did the most for women’s rights in His time was Jesus. This world has a history of oppression of women in almost all of the cultures, and women have struggled throughout history to become equal, at least equal in God’s eyes, and to realize that they are equal in God’s eyes. The message that Jesus gave, and is still giving today, is for everyone of every culture for the entire planet—ascending sons and daughters are spiritually equal. One does not have more potential than the other to be spiritual and grow into that perfection that God wants us to grow into.

We do know that men and women are different in their makeup and in their psyche. One isn’t better than the other. One isn’t smarter than the other. One isn’t stronger than the other. Each sex has its own strengths and each sex has its own perspective, its own way of viewing each situation that comes up. Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation calls this the Mother circuitry and the Father circuitry.

We know that in this country and in certain other countries women’s rights have moved forward, that women are able to do a lot more than they used to do a hundred years ago. There are more women in politics now. More women are making very important decisions in the world of economics and business. Women are being heard. They are finding their place in almost every area, including the religious world in this country. In other countries women’s rights haven’t moved forward at all. They are still back being oppressed in the traditional way of a particular religion or a particular culture.

What The URANTIA Book teaches is that women have to be very careful about what rights they fight for. Women have their special sphere of influence and men have their special sphere of influence, and we need to be clear about who we are and what our sphere of influence is. For if we fight too much for rights that are not in our sphere of influence, that are out of divine pattern, then we will lose ourselves, and we will become imbalanced.

In this country, women are still struggling to find themselves, to find who they are within their womanhood, and yet to feel they are contributing to this society. I think the most important thing that we need to teach women is that they are just as right before the Universal Father as men are. Then I think each woman has to find what her sphere of influence is within her own life, her own situation, and in her own individual balance, for we are all individuals.

Gabriel: I’d just like to add one thing to that. I can only expect an ascending daughter to listen to me when I speak the truth. No woman has the responsibility to follow any man who is speaking non-truth or a lie. As a matter of fact, it is that woman’s responsibility to stand up to that lie, to that man (or woman) and say, “You are wrong. This is the truth.”

Now, who is right and who is wrong? God knows. God stands for the righteous, always and forevermore. And even if in the situation, it seems as though the evil triumphs, it is only temporarily. We still have a responsibility to stand up for what is right. A woman does not have to obey a man just because he is a man. She does not have to be abused by one. She does not have to listen to his lies, or if she wants to seek religion in her life, she does not have to sacrifice it. As a matter of fact, she has to seek it. If it means leaving him, then she should. We all should give a hand to ascending daughters who need to get out of situations where they are dominated and controlled by over-dominant and abusive men. It is simple. Once again, it is the good guys and the bad guys. What it boils down to is just that. We want to make things so complicated. Simplify it. There is right and wrong. We have to know what right and wrong are.

Recently, a poll in Scientific American magazine showed women and their involvement in politics all over the world. Do you know that in China, there are more women involved in politics than there are in the United States? Look at all the other countries in that poll that have more women involved in politics than the United States of America.

What are your beliefs concerning the so-called end times or millennium?

Gabriel: I’ll try to cover that briefly. Sixty-six percent of Americans believe in the second coming of Jesus. He definitely will return; that may be, and probably is, the only hope for this planet. When He returns is something that we all wish would have happened yesterday, and it is a big subject. Theologians and philosophers have written books and books about it for the last two thousand years. Perhaps the change point will come at the turn of the century, perhaps it won’t. We will eventually have the beginning of thousands of years of higher peace, what The URANTIA Book calls the first stage of light and life.

In order for that first stage of light and life to happen, in order for the quantum leap to come, in order for the change point to happen, it is going to take people who are dedicated and committed to understanding, believing, walking in, and teaching continued revelation. As long as the fundamentalist mind wants to remain in lower consciousness, in a narrow one-dimensional view of reality, when there are souls on this planet who have lived in six and seven dimensions, it is impossible for this planet, Urantia, that has multi-dimensional souls on it, to be at peace.

Very, very crucial problems have to be addressed. One of these problems is education, another is health care for the poor. No one sick and dying should die of any disease because they don’t have the money to pay the doctors. If I were in power, and if a doctor wanted only money, wherever he or she is, I would make that doctor be a laborer. He would not be a doctor in my administration, because that is not what being a doctor is supposed to be about. The concept of “sacred healer” and “God’s chosen vessel” to help heal somebody should be in that person’s consciousness.

One of the main things that has to change is that we have to become our brother’s keeper and have equal education and equal tools for the trade. We have to have a world where everyone has a chance to reach whatever that goal is. Until we have that kind of world, we will continue to have wars, and we will continue to have dictators who want it all for themselves. Some of them might look like the ones that we see on television every day. But other ones are behind the scenes; you never see them, but they are there nonetheless, and they can’t be allowed to be there. Our system cannot allow them to be there.

Basically, we have to decide moment-to-moment to choose God over the system that influences us to make wrong choices. That is a very hard thing to do, because that system wants to keep us back there in the neighborhood of small minds. I would like to explain that, because had I not left my hometown of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and the neighborhood in which I grew up and loved all my family, I could not have come into my destiny. I am a starseed; I was always different; I was always seeing things other than how my family and friends saw them. I was always seeing a bigger picture. I didn’t know what that bigger picture was, and in my desire to know what it was, to find out that there has to be something more than what was there, I had to start making choices, and those choices were usually different than what my mother and father wanted for me. So I had them mad at me when I was ten years old. I had them mad at me when I was fourteen. I had them very angry at me when I was nineteen, and we didn’t talk, on and off for many years.

My mother and father, who are first-time Urantians, have to realize that I am their teacher son, hundreds of thousands of years older than they are. And just because they are chronologically older than I am in this life does not mean that they are wiser than I am. So we have a situation in many homes in America where the parents refuse to see the wisdom in their children. You can’t just say, “Do things my way. This is the way my grandfather and my grandmother did it.” You just can’t use that all the time because you may have a very special child who was born through your womb who has a higher answer than you have. If you don’t understand that, you can remain in your small mind forever, at least as long as it takes, because God is not going to force you to do anything. You may continue on in your ignorance, sometimes in arrogance, and you will die from any of the diseases that this planet has to offer for your small minds.

God does not want us to die. You asked me about the millennium. No, I am not about to go up on top of some mountain and wait for the spaceship to rescue me. I know there are spaceships. There are billions of worlds out there in the one hundred thousand universes of each superuniverse, which makes seven hundred thousand local universes. What? Are we the only intelligent life? Let’s get beyond that nonsense, because compared to some of the higher worlds out there, we are in kindergarten. Yes, they are coming here in spaceships. Of course they are. Don’t we hop in our luxury cars and go from state to state? We even went to the moon. We should have been to Mars by now, but once again, United States Steel, Bethlehem Steel, Jones and Laughlin are all shut down. We should have been making the best material in the universe, and in our local system of Satania, to go to other worlds right now.

Yes, we have to see the bigger picture. We have to see what greed does to a planet. Millennium? I plan on living. I don’t want to die. I don’t want to get AIDS or cancer. I don’t want to die of any of the diseases that this planet can give me. On the contrary, I would like to stay alive. I would like for some wonderful event to take place called the change point. I would like beings to come here from other worlds, land, build a morontia temple, and in that morontia temple, just like Safeway, I can go and get a new body. I don’t even have to die!

Now, that may sound fantastic. That is very unconventional. I understand that it is unconventional, but do you think that a loving God, a loving Father, wants you to get sick, and suffer, and die? What kind of God is that? That is not the God I know. That is not the God I want to follow. That is not the God who is in Paradise. On the contrary, He creates higher worlds of time and space to keep us trucking—trucking in our bodies and in our spirits. We can leave one body and go into another one. People do that on other worlds, but not into the bodies of little green men. On this planet many want you to believe that all the extra-terrestrials out there are ugly, evil, and bad. That is not the reality of it at all. As a matter of fact, they are beautiful human beings that are actually more beautiful than our movie stars! That is what God has created for us, every one of us. Our bodies deteriorate on this world because the whole system is set up for it to deteriorate.

Yes, I want to go into the twenty-first century. I want to help develop the new world on this planet. I want to live. I want my children and grandchildren to live and be leaders. I want your grandchildren to be leaders. You need to be leaders. We need to change this planet, and the only way we are going to change this planet is if we live. Not if we die, or go off somewhere on some assumed spaceship. That is not the way it happens anyway. People in some of these groups around the world are deceived. We want to live and go on.

As a matter of fact, I don’t care if my body does deteriorate before the morontia temple is built, and I am one-hundred-and-twenty-five-years old and can barely move. I’ll be at a computer writing, because I want to live, and to help change this planet, and I would be very greedy and selfish if I chose to transcend this planet, even by the death experience. If a spaceship did land and said, “Look, we’ll take you away, Gabriel, we’ll take you to a better world,” I’d say, “No, I have a job to do here.” I’d be very selfish if I were to go with them.

This is what we need to do. We need to go into the new millennium and bring higher concepts and higher consciousness to this planet. That is what is going to change this planet, and that is what the millennium will be. It will be us, leaders of a global change.
What do you think is causing the unusual weather and other earth changes on this planet?

Gabriel: Niánn, would you like to speak about that?

Niánn: It is caused by a variety of things, of which global warming is a part. That which has been created by unethical choices over the last century by corporations and industries has created an imbalance in our environment. That is part of it. Part of it is just simply the spiritual fact of the buildup of two hundred thousand years worth of wrong decisions, wrong thoughts, Luciferic teachings, and Luciferic behavior upon this fallen planet. The Lucifer rebellion happened two hundred thousand years ago. It has created within the atmosphere of this planet an imbalance that is now beginning to have its effect, its impact.

Gabriel: I had a wonderful gift from God to me when Wallace Black Elk—the Pipe Carrier for the Lakota—whose uncle wrote Black Elk Speaks said that we are very much alike in our thoughts. He said, “I don’t understand your higher words, but we are saying the same thing, because our people teach that the bad thoughts go into the Mother, into the Earth, and affect all of the elements in the Earth.” That alone can trigger off some of the nuclear devices that are already set up on this planet. No one even has to push the button. They can go off by the negative energy, because it is all physics, as any physicist could tell you.” Negative or positive energy does follow thought, so if it gets to be too bad, everything will be affected, from the ozone layer to global warming, and even to the plates of the Earth itself shifting. God forbid that any of that should happen.

The revelations of the prophets of old, including what our brother John wrote in the New Testament, and other prophesies like those of Nostradamus and so many others, don’t have to happen. What I wrote in The Divine New Order doesn’t have to happen. We are working diligently every day trying to change the consciousness of this planet, and I believe that from our work right here at the First Planetary Sacred Home, we have already prevented some of those catastrophes from happening. We are setting back the time. We are buying time for this planet, so I am very glad that some of my predictions have not come true. I don’t want them to happen. I don’t want the Chinese, or the Arabs and the Chinese together, to attack this nation. On the contrary, I want to play tennis with the Chinese, or badminton. I want to eat some of their food. I love Chinese food. I love Arabic food. I want our children to play with their children. We do not want war; we want peace.

I really do believe that peace can come, but every person in every country, all over the world, has to say “No” to the system, whatever that system of evil and dio and iniquity is in their nation, and they have to say “yes” to God. I guarantee you that what that will mean is that many millions of soldiers will throw their rifles and guns away. Many millions of people will quit executive positions and teller positions, working for banks that want nothing but your money. People will quit positions that they should not be in. That is the way the world will change. What do you do then? You trust God to open up another position. You might have to leave your city. You may have to leave your state. You may even have to leave your country, but if you can’t find a place, come here, we will assimilate you into the First Planetary Sacred Home. We will assimilate you into Divine Administration, one way or another. If you can’t find it where you want to find it, that is a good way to test God’s will. Try to find it where you want to go. Ask God to make it happen for you there. But if it doesn’t happen for you there, we are here.
Is there anything else that either one of you would like to say?

Gabriel: Niánn?

Niánn: I think one of the most important things for individuals coming into a higher and expanded consciousness is in realizing the interrelatedness of everything. Those are words that many, many people have heard before, but realizing it, embracing it, is the thing that needs to be brought home to people. The realization that every single thing is interrelated is true not only on this planet. What we do on this planet affects other planets, and it affects the system of planets, the constellation, and the universe. When a person moves into that type of consciousness and that realization, their whole frame of reference changes—their motives will change, and their decisions will change.

When they begin to feel this sense of responsibility—global, planetary, and cosmic responsibility—when they begin to see themselves, first and foremost, as citizens of not just a country but of a world and a universe, their realization becomes so much bigger that the decisions they make will become much more ethical. They will think very carefully before they act on any decision. They will take into consideration the effects of that decision, not only upon other human beings, but also on the human institutions and the world environment itself. That is when we can truly move into the first stage of light and life. That is when we can move into that beautiful new world, the New Age, the Golden Age. There are so many, many different names and words for it. That is when the world’s problems can then begin to diminish.

Gabriel: I’d like to close with this. Two things: I know it sounds like a fairytale to many, to believe that the Son of God would come to this planet, choose to be born in a manger with animals, to be raised poor, to work all His life. His father died when He was fourteen, and He had to take care of His eight sisters and brothers and His mother. He didn’t even start His ministry until He was thirty years old and His family was grown and His mother was provided for. I know that sounds like a fairytale. It sounds like a fairytale that He would be crucified on a cross, and then three days later be resurrected. The faith of all Christianity is based upon that resurrection, but the way the world is today, with its massive materialism and greed, the fact of what happened two thousand years ago in Bethlehem and Jerusalem is far distant from your everyday lives. Then to top it off, we have all the influences of all the other religious thought on this planet.

One beautiful thing about the Fifth Epochal Revelation, even though people attack the Fifth Epochal Revelation, is that it encourages people to become followers of the Master. We are followers of the Master Sovereign of Nebadon, Jesus Christ Michael. We have not only asked Him into our hearts, we have given Him our lives. We follow Him. We are born again. We are born again of the Helper, the Spirit of Truth, that He left behind.

Contrary to what our adversaries and enemies may say about us, we listen to the Spirit of Truth, and that Helper has led us to the Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation. I know it sounds like a fairytale, and I know that some of you don’t believe in us because we believe in past lives and repersonalization. I realize that you think we are way out there, and perhaps nuts. That is because you never had a past life. You don’t have any memories. We do. Do you want me to deny my reality? Do you want me to deny who I am? I am not waving a banner saying I am who I was in past lives. I don’t do that. Yes, I had to write it in a book. Yes, I am not denying it, but I am not waving banners about it. The issue is who I am now, because I am greater today than who I was in any past life.

Is that a fairy tale, the reality of the promise of Jesus saying He will come back? Or can we count on it? He said it, that He would return. Now I realize that you say, “Oh well, they thought He was going to return at the end of the first century.” Yes, I thought He was going to return at the end of the first century. I went to my death thinking it. And I thought He would return in the next century and the next century and the thirteenth and the sixteenth, seventeenth, and eighteenth. And He didn’t return. But you see, I am not living my eternity on this planet, my time and space moment which is all I have, depending upon His return. No, I am living my next moment trying to change the world through the Spirit of Truth that He has now given me because He is here now. He has never left! Part of Him left, but part of Him remained, the Helper, the Spirit of Truth that will guide you into all truth. He said to me and many others that He is with us always.

I stand upon that Spirit of Truth. That is my truth. I am a repersonalized starseed. I am repersonalized Van. I stand upon that truth. I know that Jesus is coming back. I know it because He said He was, and I believe Him. I heard Him. I read it, and the Spirit of Truth says He is coming back. We will hopefully have something for Him when He returns. He doesn’t have to come back for a dying and decayed world. He doesn’t have to come back for a world that is broken. He doesn’t have to come back for a world that is almost ready to self-destruct. On the contrary, He could come back to a united people of the planet who understand epochal revelation. Then He could begin to administer His functions, because you will know what those functions are. You will know the difference between Lanonandeks and Melchizedeks and seraphim and sanobim and cherubim and midwayers. You will know what a Solitary Messenger is. You will know, because you would have become students of higher truth. Then He doesn’t have to sit down before you and explain. You already know.

Your knowing these things is going to help change the world a lot faster, not just the hundred or so who are here now, but the one hundred thousand, and then the millions that perhaps will be here soon in the sense of walking in higher continuing epochal revelation all over the world. That is what will change this planet. If Jesus decides to come back tomorrow, I will be so happy. I would gladly go fishing with Him again. I’d love to do that, even though in this life I never did like picking up a worm, and I probably didn’t like it in the first century. That is why I sat at the end of the rowboat and just threw the net in and had to be awakened every so often. “Wake up! The fish are here.”

But He said He would make me a fisher of men and women, a fisher of souls. And that is what we all have to be. We have a great hope, and we do have a great eternity that lies ahead of us. We have to remember who we are. We are followers of the Master, Jesus Christ Michael. Yes, the same Jesus that Christians follow. Up and above that, we have a cosmic understanding of Jesus and a cosmic understanding of ourselves. Your brothers and sisters out there also need that cosmic understanding. As for me and my household, I will serve the Lord, Christ Michael, and I will bring interuniversal truth to this planet.

January 11, 1998